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    Re: Border Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    Obama knew more about immigration and economics than any human being on Earth
    Indeed, Obama is a very stable génois, believe me

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    Re: Border Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    Trump is getting ready!
    Trump is Getting Ready™, we can expect results anytime in the next 1000 years.

    People Get Ready
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    What are Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan, and the rest of that Republican Majority in The House of Representatives Getting Ready™ to do next?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by xfire View Post
    Trump is Getting Ready™, we can expect results anytime in the next 1000 years.

    People Get Ready
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    People Get Ready
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    What are Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan, and the rest of that Republican Majority in The House of Representatives Getting Ready™ to do next?!
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    So the border wall is the issue that triggers the libs the most.
    Fantastic. Because the defense budget has enough to fund the entire thing without further negotiations. Just declare the situation at the border a national emergency and let’s get on with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xfire View Post

    What are Trey Gowdy, Devin Nunes, Jim Jordan,
    Our fragile animal rights activist is always complaining about “ yer guys always takin’ shots at muh” and no one has even mentioned him in a week so he uses this thread as a coloring book.
    But since you mentioned it, you might want to get ready Billy Ray.
    We have a new AG on the way.
    Oh and by the way, Trey Gowdy retired from Congress in January.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    Our fragile animal rights activist is always complaining about “ yer guys always takin’ shots at muh” and no one has even mentioned him in a week so he uses this thread as a coloring book.
    But since you mentioned it, you might want to get ready Billy Ray.
    We have a new AG on the way.
    Oh and by the way, Trey Gowdy retired from Congress in January.
    But being informed is not something that you are known for.
    People Get Ready™
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    So the border wall is the issue that triggers the libs the most.
    Fantastic. Because the defense budget has enough to fund the entire thing without further negotiations. Just declare the situation at the border a national emergency and let’s get on with it.
    Love it.
    The defense budget belongs to the Pentagon, not to the Homeland Security. There's not emergency situation at the border. Trump has ben talking about declaring such an emergency situation but he didn't, because he knows he can't (or because his advisors told him so)

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    Re: Border Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    He was elected by a majority of states, all states that voted for him because they want a border wall.
    Trump is getting ready to deliver and all of the court challenges will be fast tracked when SCOTUS will grant a writ of certiorari.
    Suck it libtards. Even liberal Jonathan Turley says Trump will prevail.
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    Re: Border Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    We have a new AG on the way.
    A new AG who says he will let the Mueller investigation run its course.

    And there is no crisis at the border. Illegal border crossings are at historic lows.





    http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/th...apprehensions/

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/b...18-4?r=US&IR=T

    http://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low


    Why don't you try protecting the border with thoughts and prayers? It's good enough for protecting American children in schools.

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    Re: Border Wall

    Let me remind you


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    Quote Originally Posted by mongo18 View Post
    A new AG who says he will let the Mueller investigation run its course.

    And there is no crisis at the border. Illegal border crossings are at historic lows.







    http://www.factcheck.org/2018/04/th...apprehensions/

    http://www.businessinsider.com.au/b...18-4?r=US&IR=T

    http://www.npr.org/2017/12/05/56854...it-46-year-low


    Why don't you try protecting the border with thoughts and prayers? It's good enough for protecting American children in schools.
    Hey dumb ass, apprehensions are not representative of the problem of people actually CROSSING INTO THE UNITED STATES ILLEGALLY AND UNDETECTED!!!
    Apprehensions were up in 2018 by 100,000.
    http://thehill.com/latino/412781-bo...scal-year-2018
    You can stick fact-check up your ass.
    It is run by the Annenberg Center For Public Policy at the Annenberg School for Communication at the University of Pennsylvania.

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    http://mediabiasfactcheck.com/business-insider/

    And we don’t even have to debate the liberal bias of NPR National Panhandler Radio.
    There are 2000-3000 illegals crossing the border per day!
    That’s a crisis.
    No dip shit, we want to arm teachers just like our border patrol agents and have armed guards at schools.
    Now sit down and shut the fuck up.
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    Re: Border Wall

    Only 6 Migrants — Not Sanders’ Claim Of 4,000 — On Terror Watchlist Were Detained: Report


    There were nearly 7 times more on the Canadian border, NBC reports


    The Trump administration has claimed that U.S. border officials detained “nearly 4,000 known or suspected terrorists” last year at the Mexican border. But figures from the federal government’s Department of Customs and Border Protection reveal that only six people on a security watchlist were detained over a six-month period, NBC reports.

    The grossly inflated figure is apparently part of a strategy by the administration to whip up fear of immigrants at the southern border and support for a declaration of a national emergency by President Donald Trump so he can build his border wall.

    Forty-one people on the Terrorist Screening Database were encountered at the southern border from Oct. 1, 2017, to March 31, 2018 (which is the first half of fiscal year 2018). But 35 of them were U.S. citizens or legal permanent residents, leaving only six “non-U.S. persons,” NBC said.
    On the northern border, which is of little concern to the Trump administration, Customs and Border Protection stopped 91 people listed in the database — including 41 who were not American citizens or residents, NBC reported. State Department reports on terrorism have expressed more concern about suspects traveling in from Canada than Mexico.

    The 4,000 figure is apparently linked to the total number of suspected terrorists encountered worldwide in 2017 — and is even an exaggeration of that. DHS reported that there were 2,554 “encounters” that year with individuals on the terrorist watch list traveling to the U.S. Of those, 2,170 were attempting to enter by air, with 335 by land and the rest by sea. Nothing “tied them to Mexico,” The Associated Press reported.
    The Trump administration is apparently claiming that the entire tally — plus an additional 1,500 — were all stopped at the Mexican border.

    White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders was skewered by Fox News’ Chris Wallace on Sunday over her faulty 4,000 statistic that she floated Friday.
    “Wait, wait ... I know this statistic,” Wallace said. “Do you know where those 4,000 people come or where they’re captured? Airports.”
    He also cited a State Department report that found “no credible evidence of any terrorist coming across the border from Mexico.”

    Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen has so far refused to clarify the discrepancy in the statistics
    , saying they are classified. But she also said Friday that Customs and Border Protection had “stopped” more than 3,000 “special-interest aliens” at the border. But that’s different than the terrorist watch list and generally includes immigrants who simply come from countries of concern to the U.S., AP noted.

    According to AP, citing a CATO Institute study, the only known terrorists crossing the Mexican border from 1984 to 2017 were three ethnic Albanians from Macedonia who came as children in 1984 and were arrested in the foiled plot to attack the Army base at Fort Dix in 2007.

    In October Vice President Mike Pence, apparently relying on Nielsen’s worldwide stats on suspected terrorists, told The Washington Post that “10 terrorists or suspected terrorists per day” were being apprehended at the southern border (just seven months earlier he said there were seven a day). The newspaper called it an “eye-poppingly bogus claim.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0116c11ef346a


    Seems like Trump should build a wall on the canadian border to protect the country from terrorists coming in...

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    Re: Border Wall

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Davenport View Post
    apprehensions are not representative of the problem...Apprehensions were up in 2018
    Make up your mind, dipshit.

    And you can stop bleating about media bias until you stop citing breitbart or the US president as sources, 2 of the biggest sources of lies out there.

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    Re: Border Wall

    The wall won't get these "victims of illegal immigration" back to life.
    Ending the shutdown would get government workers' situation fixed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan View Post
    T There's not emergency situation at the border. Trump has been talking about declaring such an emergency situation but he didn't, because he knows he can't (or because his advisors told him so)
    Trump holds off calling border emergency, says Congress should act


    President Donald Trump said Friday he is still open to declaring a national emergency over immigration at the southern border, but made clear he would "rather not," calling it an "easy way out."

    "It's the easy way out," Trump said of the national emergency route. "Congress should do this. This is too simple. It's too basic. And Congress should do this."
    "If they can't do it, I will declare a national emergency. I have the absolute right to do it," Trump said.

    One of the reasons Trump is reluctant to declare a national emergency: He believes his administration will be sued and that his actions will be blocked by the 9th Circuit.
    "I'll be sued. It'll be brought to the 9th Circuit and maybe even though the wording is unambiguous ... we'll probably lose there, too," Trump said, adding he would "hopefully win" at the Supreme Court.

    Earlier in the week, White House lawyers began laying the groundwork for the legal defense of a national emergency declaration on the southern border, officials familiar with the matter said.
    Preparations for the legal challenges has included advising the President's aides on ramping up talk of a humanitarian and security "crisis" at the border, a characterization administration lawyers could use later in court to defend a national emergency.
    Trump and others in the White House began using that term more frequently over the past week. The lawyers have suggested the more times the term is used, the more citations they will have in filing a legal defense.

    Earlier Friday, Trump continued to bolster his case about the need to build a wall.
    "I just got back and it is a far worse situation than almost anyone would understand, an invasion!" Trump tweeted following his Thursday trip to McAllen, Texas. "I have been there numerous times - The Democrats, Cryin' Chuck and Nancy don't know how bad and dangerous it is for our ENTIRE COUNTRY."
    He added: "The Steel Barrier, or Wall, should have been built by previous administrations long ago. They never got it done - I will. Without it, our Country cannot be safe. Criminals, Gangs, Human Traffickers, Drugs & so much other big trouble can easily pour in. It can be stopped cold!"

    Later during his roundtable, Trump reiterated his belief that the country is "under siege."
    "We have a country that is being invaded by criminals and by drugs and we're going to stop it," Trump said, offering no evidence to back up his claims.
    Trump's comments come despite illegal immigration being among the lowest levels historically.
    http://edition.cnn.com/2019/01/11/p...ncy/index.html


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    Gee wiz mongo, ONLY a thousand apprehensions per day recently. That.s okay since most actually getting in are law abiding people. No need for boarder security at that level.
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    Re: Border Wall

    Trump openly, on video, declared, that his "National Emergency" would occur, if a bill on the wall would not pass. I think that is clear enough:

    He would be stopped pretty fast at such an attempt, and he would just add to more legal cases against him.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Supafly View Post
    Trump openly, on video, declared, that his "National Emergency" would occur, if a bill on the wall would not pass. I think that is clear enough:

    He would be stopped pretty fast at such an attempt, and he would just add to more legal cases against him.

    SCOTUS will grant certiorari and will fast track the lower court rulings and injunctions.
    The Supremes and especially a RBG-less court will rule in favor of Trump.
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    Unlike Trumptards, justices do have 2 functionning brain cells, they automaticaly Robert, Thomas, Gorsuch and Alito aren't Trump vassals.
    I'ům not saying they will rule against Trump on that issue, I'm saying Trumptards shouldn't think it's a guaranteed win for Trump if it goes to Supreme Court

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    Quote Originally Posted by Johan View Post
    Unlike Trumptards, justices do have 2 functionning brain cells, they automaticaly Robert, Thomas, Gorsuch and Alito aren't Trump vassals.
    I'ům not saying they will rule against Trump on that issue, I'm saying Trumptards shouldn't think it's a guaranteed win for Trump if it goes to Supreme Court
    I am saying that his powers to declare such an emergency are constitutional and the conservatives or at least most of them are going to side with the Trump administration and uphold his constitutional powers. It’s not a matter of wanting it to happen. It will.
    We are getting a wall and yes, Mexico will be paying for it or at least reimbursing us through remittances or the trade deal.
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    That idiot Mariah Milano has been reduced to sending me messages through her sig line because I won’t talk to her crazy ass anymore.
    Like this:


    85 percent.
    Then there are the other dumb fucks that get the numbers a little more accurate but still fuck it up.



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    Re: Border Wall

    Even assuming Trump gets his financing for the border wall. Even by Trump's own standarts, 5 billions is far from being enough to all the costs for its construction.
    And even assuming Trump gets his 5 billions, it's far from being the only thing standing between Trump and his wall
    But let's assume all the other hurdles are out of the way : The wall won't be constructed overnight, it will take a very long time And it's qui possible that a Democrat is elected before it's over. And you can be sure that the day a Democrat president starts his mandate the construction will stop.
    But let's assume the wall is completed. You can be 100% sure that the first executive order a democratic president will issue will be the destruction of the wall.

    But all that is not gonna happen 'cause Trump won't declare such an emergency. Otherwise he would have already done it. The fact that he hasn't done it yet, even thought the shutdown hurts him more than Democrats proves he can't and won't do it.

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