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    The Donald J Trump: SHITSHOW IN A DUMPSTER FIRE Thread

    Kick it off with Kellyanne Conway's Husband's assessment-

    http://www.newsweek.com/trump-shits...ustice-1219567

    Attorney George Conway described the Trump administration as a “shitshow in a dumpster fire” as a reason he did not take a post in the Justice Department last year.

    Conway, who is married to White House counselor Kellyanne Conway, spoke to Yahoo News podcast Skullduggery in an episode released Friday to discuss his newly formed Checks and Balances, a group of conservative lawyers who came together to defend the Constitution. He also talked about why conservatives have looked the other way regarding some of President Donald Trump’s public statements and why he did not “feel comfortable being a Republican anymore.”

    In explaining how he almost joined the Justice Department, Conway also cited some of Trump’s perceived missteps involving the Russia investigation as a reason for stepping aside from a possible job.

    "The administration is like a shitshow in a dumpster fire," Conway said. "And then you got the [James] Comey firing. And then you have him going on TV saying I had Russia on my mind…I'm going to be in the middle of a department he's at war with. Why would anybody want to do this?"

    Earlier in the episode, Conway said his new group was not formed solely because of Trump but that Checks and Balances might not have been formed had Trump not made it to the White House.

    “We don’t specifically mention, use the T-word in our mission statement. It’s really not about any single individual. It’s about the principles. It’s about the rule of law… You know the power of truth, the independence of the criminal justice system, individual rights and civil discourse,” Conway said.



    He delved into the issue plaguing conservatives when it comes to Trump, invoking a sort of ends justifying the means argument about not liking what the president says but approving of the reshaping of the country’s courts.

    “There’s this conundrum… Everything kind of revolves around one person, and maybe he likes it that way,” Conway said. “But it’s about timeless truths and timeless principles that are important to the country that maybe some people don’t fully understand because they think things revolve around them.”

    Conway described some of Trump’s more questionable actions and words as perhaps a “symptom of an underlying disease.

    “But I do think that one of the issues that we confront as conservative lawyers and that we’re trying to confront here, is that there has been a hesitancy to speak out when say the president tweets something that is in derogation of some of these principles because we like other things that the administration has been doing,” he said.

    Conway noted the additions of Justices Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh to the Supreme Court—as well as Trump’s stripping of regulations—as positives, but he said it was “appalling” to see Trump blast former Attorney General Jeff Sessions in September over indictments against Republican Representatives Chris Collins and Duncan Hunter because of potential election losses.

    “Two long-running, Obama era investigations of two very popular Republican Congressmen were brought to a well publicized charge, just ahead of the Mid-Terms, by the Jeff Sessions Justice Department. Two easy wins now in doubt because there is not enough time. Good job Jeff......” Trump tweeted September 3.

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    Re: The Donald J Trump: SHITSHOW IN A DUMPSTER FIRE Thread

    The one thing that is nice is:

    The world can witness to what lengths - or rather: Lows the Republican party is willing to go for the sake of protecting their sponsors power, and their own grasp on staying on top. The aftermath will be the true dumpster fire

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    It's a stark contrast; Everything Republicans accused President Obama of was horseshit fabrications, people grew numb to it because they knew everything was hyperbole, conversely, Everything Trump has been accused of is true, people have grown numb to it because of the sheer volume. The Republican Party has always been the party of Nixon, it took the Shitshow In A Dumpster Fire to eclipse that crook, own that shit, Republicans, of course they've got no shame.

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    http://www.axios.com/newsletters/ax...chunk=0#story0

    Congressional Republicans are getting ready for hell.

    Axios has obtained a spreadsheet that's circulated through Republican circles on and off Capitol Hill — including at least one leadership office — that meticulously previews the investigations Democrats will likely launch if they flip the House.

    Why this matters: Publicly, House Republicans are putting on a brave face about the midterms. But privately, they are scrambling to prepare for the worst. This document, which catalogs requests Democrats have already made, is part of that effort.

    It has churned Republican stomachs. Here are some of the probes it predicts:



    • President Trump’s tax returns
    • Trump family businesses — and whether they comply with the Constitution's emoluments clause, including the Chinese trademark grant to the Trump Organization
    • Trump's dealings with Russia, including the president's preparation for his meeting with Vladimir Putin
    • The payment to Stephanie Clifford — a.k.a. Stormy Daniels
    • James Comey's firing
    • Trump's firing of U.S. attorneys
    • Trump's proposed transgender ban for the military
    • Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin's business dealings
    • White House staff's personal email use
    • Cabinet secretary travel, office expenses, and other misused perks
    • Discussion of classified information at Mar-a-Lago
    • Jared Kushner's ethics law compliance
    • Dismissal of members of the EPA board of scientific counselors
    • The travel ban
    • Family separation policy
    • Hurricane response in Puerto Rico
    • Election security and hacking attempts
    • White House security clearances




    The spreadsheet — which I'm told originated in a senior House Republican office — catalogs more than 100 formal requests from House Democrats this Congress, spanning nearly every committee.

    The spreadsheet includes requests for administration officials to be grilled by committee staff, requests for hearings to obtain sworn testimony, efforts to seize communications about controversial policies and personnel decisions, and subpoena threats.

    These demands would turn the Trump White House into a 24/7 legal defense operation.

    The bottom line: Thanks to their control of Congress, Republicans have blocked most of the Democrats’ investigative requests.

    But if the House flips, the GOP loses its power to stymie.

    Lawyers close to the White House tell me the Trump administration is nowhere near prepared for the investigatory onslaught that awaits them, and they consider it among the greatest threats to his presidency.
    *Update- Republicans lost The House, Their Hell Has Arrived.

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    Trump didn’t know the GOP tax bill incentivizes business to offshore jobs
    "The president is not one to take responsibility for his own issues."

    http://thinkprogress.org/trump-didn...-367fe5bea9dd/

    President Donald Trump was apparently unaware that a provision in his biggest legislative accomplishment encourages corporations to offshore jobs.

    Sen. Sherrod Brown (D-OH) spoke with Trump Wednesday night about the closure of at least five General Motors plants, including one assembly plant in Lordstown, Ohio, and filled him in on how the GOP tax bill is partly to blame.

    “I reached him last night, he said he wanted to help, I said the first thing you could do is you could take away that tax provision in his tax bill that gives a company a 50 percent off coupon on their taxes,” Brown told CNN’s New Day Thursday. “If you’re producing in Lordstown you pay a 21 percent tax rate, if you move to Mexico you pay a 10.5 percent tax rate, and I told the president to get rid of that tax break that encourages jobs to move overseas.”

    The president apparently did not know that was in the tax bill.

    It’s difficult to believe that Trump didn’t know a significant result of the GOP tax bill would be a worsening of offshore tax dodging — especially when his own Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said it would. A report in April suggested corporations may be incentivized under the legislation to offshore “tangible assets” like factories and offices, and yes, jobs.

    “By locating more tangible assets abroad, a corporation is able to reduce the amount of foreign income that is categorized as GILTI (Global Intangible Low Taxed Income),” the report stated. “Similarly, by locating fewer tangible assets in the United States, a corporation can increase the amount of U.S. income that can be deducted as FDII (Foreign-Derived Intangible Income). Together, the provisions may increase corporations’ incentive to locate tangible assets abroad.”

    Those findings echoed previous analysis from non-partisan agencies like like the Institute on Taxation and Economic Policy, which found the Republican Tax Cuts and Jobs Act would make offshore tax dodging even worse than it was before. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities similarly found that the plan is “likely to lead to more outsourcing of U.S. jobs and a larger trade deficit” due to its tax cuts for overseas profits.

    Brown had reportedly reached out to the president earlier in the year when the first phase of layoffs at Lordstown occurred, but nothing was done. Now, with a key 2020 re-election campaign on the horizon and a mountain of bad press, Trump seems intent on saving face with voters in the key purple state of Ohio.

    Brown told CNN that Trump subsequently expressed an interest in signing onto his American Jobs, American Cars Act that would eliminate the incentive for corporations to move jobs overseas and provide consumers with a $3,500 price deduction on a purchase or five-year lease of a new, American-made car.

    Earlier in the week Trump blamed Brown, but not Ohio Republican Sen. Rob Portman, for the GM closures.



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    Re: The Donald J Trump: SHITSHOW IN A DUMPSTER FIRE Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by xfire View Post
    [SIZE=5]It’s difficult to believe that Trump didn’t know a significant result of the GOP tax bill would be a worsening of offshore tax dodging — especially when his own Congressional Budget Office (CBO) said it would.
    That's actually one of the easiest things to believe that I've ever heard about trump.

    I heard this on the radio the other day and loved it. I really hope more journos follow suit. Like that popular meme that's been going around says - "if one person says it's raining and the other says it's sunny, your job is not to report on both, it's to look outside and see who is lying."

    http://www.bustle.com/p/cbs-reporte...ed-it-13202097

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    For monthes, we've read about anonymous White House staffer describing the mess that was Trump administration but Trumptards could always answer that the medias we're making up these anonymous sourcs and that, in reality, they had nothing. Now we have somoeen who's as closer as it gets from a member of Trump administration who comes up and says the same.
    This time, Truptards can't claim that this is all BS, made up sources, etc. 'cause we have the name of the person who said it, we have someone who knows how Trump administration works , on tapes.

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    This thread title

    We're all full of shit

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    Haven't mentioned the disaster for Trump today that is Michael Cohen, I'm sure TrumpTV and the GOP apologists will spin the fuck out of it.

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    Yeah, pretty much. Cohen is desperate, trying to save his own ass etc etc. trump himself said Cohen's "not smart," but for some reason he was trump's personal lawyer for 12 years, not sure how that jibes with trump being a perfect judge of character.

    One of the things that infuriates me, and I'm sure others, is when journos and pundits talk about trump like he's a reasonable and legitimate president. Heard some legal scholar on the radio talking about it saying "well, if trump was willing to mislead America on his financial relationships with Russia back in 2016, is he still willing to mislead America about them now?" This cunt will mislead America on what he had for fucking breakfast. Stop pussyfooting around. Anything trump says is LESS likely to be true, for no other reason than the fact that he said it!

    He's not a normal, competent president with occasional missteps, nor is he some maverick non-politician who knows what the USA needs. He's a total fuckup, plain and simple.

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    Most Americans Live Paycheck to Paycheck
    No matter how much you earn, getting by is still a struggle for most people these days.

    Seventy-eight percent of full-time workers said they live paycheck to paycheck, up from 75 percent last year, according to a recent report from CareerBuilder.

    Overall, 71 percent of all U.S. workers said they're now in debt, up from 68 percent a year ago, CareerBuilder said.

    While 46 percent said their debt is manageable, 56 percent said they were in over their heads. About 56 percent also save $100 or less each month, according to CareerBuilder. The job-hunting site polled over 2,000 hiring and human resource managers and more than 3,000 full-time employees between May and June.

    Most financial experts recommend stashing at least a six-month cushion in an emergency fund to cover anything from a dental bill to a car repair — and more if you are the sole breadwinner in your family or in business for yourself.

    While household income has grown over the past decade, it has failed to keep up with the increased cost-of-living over the same period.

    Even those making over six figures said they struggle to make ends meet, the report said. Nearly 1 in 10 of those making $100,000 or more said they usually or always live paycheck to paycheck, and 59 percent of those in that salary range said they were in the red.
    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/most...-paycheck.html

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    Let us stop for a moment and thank our fellow board members of the other persuasion, they keep out of this thread, I will keep out of their most extreme fan threads.

    Quid Pro Quo.

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    Thanks are unnecessary, at this point it's a matter of survival and abject humiliation and the horrification that Democrats are a month away from meaningful oversight. When asked for comment, Representative Devin Nunes referred reporters to a photo blast from his past-


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    Re: The Donald J Trump: SHITSHOW IN A DUMPSTER FIRE Thread

    I can't wait to see what I will wake up to 12 hours from now


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    Quote Originally Posted by ~~whimsy~~ View Post
    Maybe Trump knew that was the Saudi Crown Prince's plan for Jamal Khashoggi?

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    http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...s-plea/577015/

    “The president of the United States’ personal lawyer admitted to lying to Congress about the president’s business activities with a hostile foreign power, in order to support the president’s story. In any rational era, that would be earthshaking….. These are the sorts of developments that would, under normal circumstances, end a presidency.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfire View Post
    These are the sorts of developments that would, under normal circumstances, end a presidency.
    "under normal circonstances" that is why Trump's presidency will survive that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Straight Shooter View Post
    Most Americans Live Paycheck to Paycheck

    http://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/24/most...-paycheck.html

    #StraightShooter
    A lot of Americans buy at credit even if they don't have financial means to buy the thing. When you aren't stupid, you don't buy what you can't afford and you never make loans. But you spare money every month, so that you can have money to buy the real thing and don't have to reimburse the bank with bigger interest rates. But unfortunately many Americans like to buy fancy things that they can't afford at credit and then they are astonished that they are in the red. Do the math of your usual monthly expenses, substract it from the salary you receive then you will know what is the sum left for your 401k and your leisure

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    Quote Originally Posted by xfire View Post
    http://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...s-plea/577015/

    “The president of the United States’ personal lawyer admitted to lying to Congress about the president’s business activities with a hostile foreign power, in order to support the president’s story. In any rational era, that would be earthshaking….. These are the sorts of developments that would, under normal circumstances, end a presidency.”
    The atlantic another democrat cheapshot newspaper that can't be taken seriously

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    The Trump Economy:

    Real Wage Growth Is Actually Falling

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/patrick.../#2bbe18377284
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    Quote Originally Posted by georges View Post
    The atlantic another democrat cheapshot newspaper that can't be taken seriously
    Please refrain from posting your, "rah-rah Trump, Democrats suck" shit on my thread, please.

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    Re: The Donald J Trump: SHITSHOW IN A DUMPSTER FIRE Thread

    Another circle jerk topic
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    Quote Originally Posted by ~~whimsy~~ View Post
    Another circle jerk topic
    Enlighten everyone.

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